Fredrik Josefsson
has discussed Islam from different perspectives
9w ago
[EDIT! There currently appears to be no ties between Islam and this mass shooting. So please do not comment about that. ]
I see Islam in the same way today as I did yesterday. I say that after each attack that is claimed to be Islamic. I will say it the next time it happens too.
Besides, I think attacks like these get too much attention. According to a report from a week ago, around 80 people die because of the Talibans in Afghanistan every day. [1] Virtually all of them are Muslims. Muslims do kill in the name of Islam and Muslims are the main victims.
It is sad but it won’t change my view on Islam. Why would it? I have studied Islam and created my opinion on it and it won’t change even if all the Muslims in the world would hate me.
[edit: I don’t mean that literally]
Let us all join in fighting the extremists, that’s what I think. It won’t do any use in fighting “Islam” or “Muslims” — that’s what the radicals want to provoke us into doing and we shouldn’t let them.
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Ilwaad Isa
I study different religions for fun.
10w ago
Peace is situational and subjective.
Americans can be peaceful. Americans can be violent. ( insert any country into the following equation)
America can be at a state of peace, give individuals a feeling of peace, and other individuals may be in a constant state of fear from being shot by a police officer or deported.The American freedoms can be seen as peaceful but certain parts of the constitution can be seen as “not peaceful”. Like when certain individuals choose to abuse gun rights, to the point where a white elderly man , of unknown religion, can carry a fully automated riffle, and multiple suitcases of an assortment of different guns straight into a hotel lobby towards a hotel room where he plotted and executed the largest mass murder in American history, yet the news didn't even call him a terrorist because he was white, we have been so conditioned by the news to think all terrorism stems from Islamic extremist groups or people of colored immigrant minorities. Just, like how you mistake it, in the very assumption of your question.
He wasn’t peaceful. But, this doesn't mean all men are not peaceful. This doesn't mean all white males ( the profile of the majority of shooters in America ) are not peaceful. To the contrary, this means he was a terrorist. In the sense that he inflicted “terror” during this concert. But, this doesn’t make all Christians terrorists, if he was a Christian. This doesn’t make all Jews terrorists if he was Jewish or all buddhists are terrorists if he just happened to be Buddhist. Even if he has belonged to a cult like terror group. He is a representative of that specific cult-like terror group. So, it makes sense to say that, that cult-like terror group are not peaceful because they actively killed people and their “leader” said that was their initial aim.
But. an religion or ideology is an ideology. That is different. Billions of people follow Islam and that is not the same as the self proclaimed “Islamic state” that has been condemned by nearly All Muslims from California to Africa to Fiji . And they also kinda kill mainly Muslims.
Islam is an ideology , an ideology depends on what each individual chooses to take from it. If Darren read the constitution with ulterior motives Darren could justify is ulterior motives to whatever sedated his conscience, this goes with anything.
So is Islam a pacifist religon? No, I don’t think anyone is arguing that. But what religion truly is? If you look at Myanmar , the Buddhists their are conducting a genocide as we speak. And Buddhism was thought widely as a religion with peaceful followers even they have their own bad apples. Does this mean Buddhism doesn't PROMOTE PEACE or PROVIDE INNER PEACE for their followers? No, because it would be pretentious to write that off because of a certain segment of the population. Now, just because there are Islamic extremists doesn't this mean that Islam DOESNT promote peace or provide inner peace to its followers? Well, no, not at all. In fact below are some verses to ponder over that are frequently glossed over because people focus too much on the active war-time verses.
So, when it’s said and done, who are we to tell people how THEY interpet their own religion then to go on and define their ENTIRE religion according to our individualistic subjective stance? That would be quite harsh and pretentious of all. All things have good if you have good eyes. You see what you look for, always. So, to fully condemn a country, you condemn the bad and the good coming from it. To fully condemn a person you condemn their potential and good hidden in them, and to fully condemn and label an entire religion , you condemn all the good and peace it has brought out in people and all the good people that follow it. This should be a lesson for all humanity:
Nothing in this world is black and white , it’s just a perspective, our individual perspectives. Because how you see something may not be how others people see it, or how most people see it, or even how it actually objective is. That doesn't make their perspective wrong and belief invalid, just because we want our perspective to be validated .
Sarif Muhammed
Practicing Muslim
9w ago
YES
Islam is not a “religion of peace” , rather Islam is religion of “justice” , You can’t always solve issues with peace, So if some sort of violence required islam allows it for “justice” ,
So why Islam is called “religion of peace” ?
Because Islam allows the “just violence” as the final resort and still insist on “peace” if there any possibility.
Now coming to the answer, Who ever do things in the name of Islam doesn’t change the status of Islam, even if the mass shooting was done by an ISIS guy ,which is not the case here,
So the answer remains same even after “so called Muslims” do some violence in any part of the world at any time.
If you want to change the status ,you have to dig deep and show that the teaching is ‘wrong”,than showing some “so called followers”
Ziaa Mohiq
Bachelor of Banking & Finance from Universiti Tunku Abdul Rahman (2016)
10w ago
What I fail to see is the relationship between Islam/Muslims with the attack happened in Las Vegas.
The shooter who had killed himself before police could arrest him, is a white guy who is probably of christian background. So, the word “Islam” in the question should have been “Christianity” instead, in order for the question to make sense, kinda.
Thus the question is:
“Do you still think Christianity is a religion of peace even after look at what happened in Las Vegas shooting? “
In this case, I would just answer you by asking you to refer to the population of christians and imagine what would happen to the world if every single christian who fillows this religion of “violence” commits an act of terror like what happened in Las Vegas?!
So, the question is not valid. It is offensive and it reflects the sad reality, which is that usually some people who apparently are regular audience of CNN, Fox News and other biased media, are brainwashed to an extent that they would easily pick a specific religion and blame it without having their information verified beforhand.
My condolences with the families of victims of the Las Vegas tragedy. I have as many people killed in my own country on daily basis and I feel the same sadness and sorrow when someone innocent loses his/her life in other parts of the world. I pray for that day to come that no innocents lose their lives, not here, not anywhere else.
And lastly, we can choose to see each other represnted this way:
Or this way:
Peace.
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